Nick Tegrataker, 12 May 2023I don't really care about the rest of this phone since to me no Google Services = no buy,... moreWhat is so essential about Google that you couldn't live without? Does your old phone work well enough that you could use both phones while you for figure out how to migrate?
I have the standard p60 and there are no colour casts from the ryyb, the colours are fantastic, my main complaints are that I wish they would go easier on the noise reduction.
No google is ok because there are alternative bypass ...but no 5g is suicide because there are not alternative to connect to network
I don't really care about the rest of this phone since to me no Google Services = no buy, but I will just point out that Huawei's commitment to their phone camera despite the ban is quite something.
The 10-step variable aperture is a complete overkill given a relatively small sensor size, but it's worth praising that they managed to fit that mechanism inside a phone. The RYYB sensor seems to be no longer a major drawback since there isn't any weird colour cast I can notice on these sample photos (except for the Night Mode telephoto shots, but then auto looks just as good with better colours anyway), the detail rendition is fantastic during the day, and all the photos have a very wide dynamic range - Not a whole lot to complain about the main camera apart from the smudgy low light photos (This amount of noise reduction and sharpening are completely unnecessary given how much light this sensor + lens combo is capable of collecting).
I was actually ready to complain about slight oversharpening in the safari shots, but then I read the description and realised that these were taken from a moving vehicle.. All right, that's actually damn impressive, especially given the tricky lighting in those scenes.
Macro capability with a telephoto camera is something EVERYONE should copy. Xiaomi technically did it first with Mi Mix Fold, but Huawei's implementation is by far the best due to its long focal length and very wide aperture. I would say the flower shot in the gallery looks impressive and certainly doesn't look like something captured by a smartphone camera at first glance.
I still prefer the overall look of the photos from Mate 30 Pro - But Huawei's camera prowess slowly coming back since their Kirin SoC was dead, and there is still a lot of stuff that other manufacturers could learn from them.
XAn4ETO, 11 May 2023Actually I don't like the sound quality in the video clips. 96kbps is too low and I don... moreYour headphones and earphones will fail you WELL before any bitrate will. No smartphone will ever match a dedicated microphone. The P60 Pro won't either.
larger display is not an advantage! (stated when compared to honor magic)
stop saying that, we want smaller screen phones... p60 and p60 pro is already too big
"the achieved magnification and quality are quite impressive given the limitation of the sensor and its lens."
Limitation of the lens? It has a larger effective lens diameter than the S23 Ultra! 6.93mm whereas the S23 Ultra's periscope only has 5.55m. This means that regarding diffraction, Huawei's periscope could let you zoom 6.93/5.55 = 25% more than the S23 Ultra (at the same quality), if Huawei's periscope had smaller pixels (slightly smaller than 0.5 micrometer).
"Let's look at the 10x zoomed photos now. Surprisingly, we found those to be more detailed than the 10x zoomed images taken on the Huawei Mate 50 Pro, which used a 64MP camera with a similar lens."
Similar lens? What are you talking about? The Mate 50 Pro likely had the same periscope lens as the P50 Pro: A 16.85mm f/3.5 lens , so the effective lens diameter was only 4.81mm and the camera suffered from diffraction due to a pixel size / f-number / micrometer ratio of only 0.2.
The P60 Pro's periscope has an effective lens diameter of 6.93mm. This means that distant objects suffer less from diffraction and this compensates for the lower megapixel count at least slightly.
It could be also possible that Huawei uses a better demosaicing algorithm or that a Quad RYB sensor produces maybe sharper results than a Quad Bayer sensor or that the lens is of higher quality.
Actually I don't like the sound quality in the video clips. 96kbps is too low and I don't know how you describe it as crisp and good. For me is awful.
I did use gspace about 8 years ago, and it was horrible, I didn't think that the day will come that they(similar apps) get this close to real Google services. I mean, even on some phones that that did have Google services we sometimes have problem with hdr10 on some apps and this not official one is getting the job done! In mho lack of 5g and esim isn't still a big issue for most of people, but the thing is that, this is the same price as others while they have these. It's not drawback for me but it's very good reason to not buy it.
"The telephoto camera on the Huawei P60 Pro has 90mm f/2.1 lens - meaning it offers the largest aperture on such a long telephoto camera"
That's wrong. 90mm is not a specification of the lens, but a specification for the field of view, which also depends on the sensor size. It's actually a 14.55mm f/2.1 lens and it has a large effective lens diameter because 14.55mm/2.1 = 6.93mm is one of the largest effective lens diameters you can get in a smartphone (including main cameras) (only the Galaxy K Zoom has slightly more: 6.98mm) , this means that it can capture more light per exposure time from distant objects than any smartphone camera (including main camera) on the market.
[deleted post]No, rounded edges are superior comfort-wise and that's why I refuse to buy a damn rectangle phone. They are horrible to handle, especially without a case.
CompactPhones5ever, 11 May 2023>No 5G >No Google services >1200 eur lol lmao, even.Ofc there you are Huawei haters...... although I won't disagree that it is a bit overpriced
[deleted post]Sorry? iPhone design? Bro, check your vision at a doctor. You even said it yourself. Curved screen. Does the iphone have that? And the edges are again, curved. Not like on the iphone....flat
>Quad-Bayer RYYB
...sounds confusing. I know quad bayer, I know RYYB, but nomenclature fusing the two together definitely suggests more than one potential meaning, and we lack an illustration.
The telemacro is...simply the correct way to do things, interesting that Huawei seems the first to turn things around, while they were the first to (mis)lead most of the industry into UWA macros which are a pain to use.
f/1.4 is nearly a stop faster than Sony's with a largely comparable sensor size but then again...sigh, Sony itself is the outlier, frankly with the multi aspect penalty I don't think it's flagship worthy.
The DoF of the samples do seem very shallow, but then it's absolutely crucial to disclose the focus distance!
I don't agree that this is "mature processing", perhaps just the colors, but details still look waxy magnified, well, as a typical P series would, for years. They do look good without magnification, but then so do Samsungs, and I don't abide by that approach. Again, if you're aiming for 2MP, don't pretend you do 12MP. And I'm certain a different person shot the samples compared to the usual reviews, many subjects are the same, but they're shot at notably different angles and positions making them useless for comparison. If you want to convince, you need a real shootout.
I think I still see quite some distortion in those UWA images...yet you won't even shoot a brick wall. It's a UWA, you NEED a brick wall if you want to say something about distortion!
Night mode seems to progress with an even stronger emphasis on the overall picture, instead of the pixels, there's little if any improvement at all if magnified, but the image at a ~8" size on my screen seems notably better than before. Again, that's about 3MP on my 4K screen, but it's probably enough for most non-pro use. But it's definitely not a real "pro" approach. And again, we need a real shootout, I don't think there's been one for the past 2 years.
>everything else will drain your battery noticeably faster
If AOD drains battery noticeably faster, than most likely the screen is inefficient, which almost certainly means that DRR doesn't work as advertised, these should refresh in 1hz after all.
>It turns your phone into a listening device that streams the sound to your Bluetooth headphones or speaker
Funny how a hearing aid with the receiver detached from the speaker turns into a spying device XD
>And we had no say in this, there is just no option to tell that this is NOT JUNK. It was gone. Forever.
lol!! And I thought Vivo was overly assertive. Certain Chinese companies may have taken on undesirable traits of their Party Branches. And for the record Wechat binds the voice-to-text language to the chosen app language(previously, only the system language), so for a communications app with over a decade's history and over 1.4 billion users, they cannot even accommodate bilingual usage, not to mention trilingual or above, and with the abundant, underutilized power of today's AI cores in SoCs they still refuse to support offline conversion, be it translation or voice-text conversion. This is what I can only describe as authoritarian arrogance.
a bit expensive? It's VERY expensive even with that hardware. No 5G (acceptable) and no Google services (serious drawback). It has potential but bad q/p ratio
i thought that whole circle in the camera module was the entrance pupil until i saw gsmarena close-up image and damn the entrance pupil is just a tiny circle in the middle of that ring, so no matter how fast the aperture this phone has it can't produce shallow depth of field with far away subjects. when will smartphones enlarge the entrance pupil to get rid of artifical bokeh?
I really wish Samsung implemented similar variable aperture in their flagship's main camera.
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