YUKI93, 27 May 2022Already looked at them and compared the photos. All of them exhibit an obvious oversharpening ... moreXiaomi 12 Pro actually applies substantially *less* sharpening than both X70 Pro+ and Xperia 1 IV; if you look at the sample from the three on GSMArena's comparison chart it's clear that the latter two exhibits more obvious sharpening haloes around edges compared to Xiaomi. Grass in real-world sample photos can't be a good indicator of natural processing in this case since it's either withered or grown tall depending on the scenes as well as the time when the review was written for each device. On the other hand, both Xiaomi and Vivo resolve seem to resolve finer details than Sony, although this might be due to the difference in sensor size and Sony having to apply more noise reduction to keep the image noise-free.
The regular Mi 11 is known for extremely laid back processing and leaves no trace of oversharpening whatsoever anywhere in its images - the fact that the resolution is so large that you have to zoom in all the way to even start seeing any artifacts definitely helps. The Ultra is also very good during the day, though they both tend to go overboard with noise reduction when using night mode, and for this reason I consider 12 Pro to be a more consistent performer across different lighting conditions.
techois, 27 May 2022it had a promising hardware during it's time, but i think calling it the best NOW is exag... moreCamera-wise it's still the best - which other smartphone will give you 27MP default shots from main camera? All are of 12MP output & that won't change.
I had Mi Note 10 Pro & all was fine with it whether it's taking photos or playing games & it cost me only around 530 Euros in today's currency.
Rly, 27 May 2022Lol, some bullS.. I had Huawei 2017-2020 5 different mate phones, never seen it better other ... morethere are more people than yourself around the world. market is and will not follow your individual choices. I wrote the facts of the bigger picture. it's OK if you cannot see this and I am not here to convince you or anyone.
looks like a great phone but ruined total by a crappy SoC and horrible battery endurance :/ not even close to 100 hours..... what a joke
YUKI93, 27 May 2022If you want Android brands that can give at least three major OS updates at least in the flags... moreYou are wrong.
Oppo,Vivo,Realme,Xiaomi and the rest you mention nowadays offer at least 3years in their latest flagships.
Only Sony is stuck in 2years.
We are now in the era of 1000-1100 euro smartphones. Offering 3years in OS updates is the bare minimum for these prices. And since Samsung is offering 4years even in mid range phones, there rest of the companies have no excuse offering less.
yalim, 27 May 2022as a customer, I am willing to see more competition in the market. but, xiaomi/vivo/oppo make ... moreLol, some bullS..
I had Huawei 2017-2020 5 different mate phones, never seen it better other where.
And i had most S and Note serie samme phones to. Today i would any day choose Huawei vs Samsung in quality, batteri life, software stability, camera stability etc.
My Mi 11 ultra i also took, over the S21 ultra which i sold after 2 weeks.
And today my Mate 20X is more smoth and totally stable compared to those 2 x S22 ultra beta phones i had, (trashy Exynos versions), which i returned.
Soooo, keep talking and maybe one day you convinced yourself 😏
Anonymous, 27 May 2022Lol, not a chance. The only area where the Mi 11 Ultra is in dark lowlight condition, and that... moreYou know because?
The camera lense/glass is quite revolutionary from what I gathered. It's anti-glare so there are no dog sheet lense flares all over like with mostly every other phone.
Anonymous, 26 May 2022What a joke, mi11U destroy any Xperia phoneTypical Xiaomi sales reps at work. :v
dario italy, 26 May 2022There won't be a X80 Pro Plus.Vivo is in the list for the recently-launched Snapdragon 8 Gen 1+, so the Pro+ model might still happen.
I wonder how Vivo can do better with the X80 Pro+. I checked the spec between this and the X70 Pro+, and they both share the same camera hardware. In that case, the Pro+ needs a truly special camera hardware.
Anonymous, 26 May 2022Crazy oversaturation and weird artificial blur. This is aimed at a very specific market.The "oversaturated" colors can be disabled by simply turning on the Zeiss mode or whatever it's called. Do some research next time, sir.
YUKI93, 27 May 2022Brighter colour doesn't mean better photo, simple as that.You should stop worshiping bad Xperia phones just to be a contrarian on GSMArena. It's sad. Mi 11 Ultra is widely regarded as one of the best (if not the best) camera phones today. Your precious Xperias are nothing in comparison...
bulbulito.bayagbag, 27 May 2022Its very difficult for chinese oem's when they go premium (iphone and galaxy territory pr... moreas a customer, I am willing to see more competition in the market. but, xiaomi/vivo/oppo make it difficult for themselves. first,they need to sell their products to people. so that, average customer sees "IF" the OEM can provide a premium experience or not with the flagship device. this includes after sales channel avaliability, repairability and long term software experience (user friendly UI and stability),reliable camera and long term existance of an OEM in the market. people don't pay a premium price for a product unless they guarantee existing on market for the following 4-5 years. those are unknown minor brands outside of china. worldwide market, "made in china" product means cheap and low quality product. chinese OEMs need to know this reality before deciding the price of their products. their flagship can cost $1000 after they overcome all these barriers. otherwise,they have no chance to compete. that's why current chinese flagships must be below $800 to attract people.
My x70 pro in India is still in Dec 2021 patch with android 11. So I would be really sceptical about any promise that vivo makes about os upgrades. My prev samsung a50 model got monthly release for 2 years in spite of being a mid range model.
YUKI93, 27 May 2022If you want Android brands that can give at least three major OS updates at least in the flags... moreAnd in the case of the last two they will be late ,buggy, half done and leave you with a mess of a phone. On Android buy a phone on what it’s running right now , not on promises.
Anonymous, 26 May 2022What a joke, mi11U destroy any Xperia phoneBrighter colour doesn't mean better photo, simple as that.
Nick Tegrataker, 26 May 2022Mi 11, Mi 11 Ultra, and 12 Pro want to have a word with you.Already looked at them and compared the photos. All of them exhibit an obvious oversharpening effect, particularly the 12 Pro. Even the colour science is all wrong with too much contrast and exposure. It really looks as if Xiaomi tuned the processing because of Instagram. Even when resorting to GSMArena's own photo comparison tool, things aren't any different. The only consolation I'll give is that Xiaomi keeps it steady for the Mi 11, but even the lowlight photos leave me cold.
TL;DR Not impressed with any of them. I'll stick with either the Vivo or the Sony. Maybe a GCam port for those Xiaomi phones might redeem themselves, but I don't ever remember using a fully working faultless port. I might check it back again.
LoneOwl, 27 May 2022For flagships, it should be 4 years of android updates,nowadays that almost everyone(soon Real... moreIf you want Android brands that can give at least three major OS updates at least in the flagship circle, your only choice is either Google, Samsung, and OnePlus. That's it.
Anonymous, 26 May 2022What a joke, mi11U destroy any Xperia phoneLol, not a chance. The only area where the Mi 11 Ultra is in dark lowlight condition, and that's it. The overexposure on daylight is beyond joke.
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