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EU declares Apple iMessage and Microsoft’s Edge and Bing are not gatekeepers Comments

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  • Carol
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  • 18 Feb 2024

Anonym, 18 Feb 2024They clearly do not understand that. Your choice is limited by whatever your contacts use. If ... moreYou are also forced to use whatsapp, if all your contacts use whatsapp, so you cannot use other platforms like signal or telegram or even the Zombie "Viber". So your argument does not stick, believe me, EU Parliament tought about that too.

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    • Anonym
    • LcH
    • 18 Feb 2024

    Seran Mizorogi, 14 Feb 2024iMessage may not be a gatekeeper in messaging sense since there's WhatsApp which has larg... moreThey clearly do not understand that. Your choice is limited by whatever your contacts use. If you happen to be unfortunate enough that your contacts prefer iOS and iMessage, you have no choice other than to be trapped in this Apple ecosystem -- someone should do something about that, and the EU clearly isn't it.

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      • Anonymous
      • KuX
      • 17 Feb 2024

      MS is lying to you. Try this yourself.
      I installed the Duckduckgo browser and it routed the install into c:> Program files/windowsapps.
      A hidden file that you aren't supposed to know is there.

      Then my VPN popped up a message that that the browser was routing to a MS server. I clicked "no" and it killed my wifi.
      It couldn't have been more blatant.

      When I opened Task Manager, all of the DDGo tabs appeared as MS Edge.

      I took screen shots of everything.
      I'm disabling Windows - F'them.

      What really burns me up is that when you log into your MS account - Privacy page - and it states in big letters ...
      "Privacy Starts with Trust."
      If that doesn't piss you off to read that, I guess you'll get what you deserve.

      It doesn't have to be DDGo browser. I'm sure any browser will yield the same takeover tactics.
      So much for trust

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        • Anonymous
        • 3TX
        • 16 Feb 2024

        Anonymous, 15 Feb 2024Right? What does the EU produce other than bougie clothes and cars? And, Trump will be the 47t... moreIntel CPUs for example. ;P

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          • Infelsinave
          • 7F{
          • 16 Feb 2024

          Ouifuf, 14 Feb 2024Where did this come from? Idc about imessage since myself and everyone i know uses WhatsApp bu... morethey do share it... with iOS users 😒

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            • tDames
            • cUs
            • 15 Feb 2024

            Just integrate RCS and I'll be ok tbh.

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              • Anonymous
              • YYX
              • 15 Feb 2024

              Anonymous, 14 Feb 2024Because other than the three companies you mention, no one really innovates in the EU anymore ... moreRight? What does the EU produce other than bougie clothes and cars? And, Trump will be the 47th POTUS.

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                • Anonymous
                • YYX
                • 15 Feb 2024

                Anonymous, 14 Feb 2024Then come to America and see everyone use it. I use it daily. Almost everyone I know shows up as a blue bubble, lol.

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                  • Anonymous
                  • YYX
                  • 15 Feb 2024

                  MrLVegas, 13 Feb 2024This was expected. As many have stated, iMessage is mainly US-centric. What is interesting is... moreWow, I hadn’t thought of that. Excellent point, and tag line!

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                    • Lister
                    • pLY
                    • 14 Feb 2024

                    "Cries more in Google"

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                      • IbI
                      • 14 Feb 2024

                      MrLVegas, 13 Feb 2024This was expected. As many have stated, iMessage is mainly US-centric. What is interesting is... moreBecause other than the three companies you mention, no one really innovates in the EU anymore because of onerous regulations like these. (I'll also accept Mojang and ARM, but the former is under foreign ownership and the latter is not even in the EU anymore.) Tiny Israel has a low productive tech sector than the entire EU. The EU makes a fortune off extorionate fines on US tech companies like Alphabet and Apple to make up for this. I'd expect the next round of trade negotiations to try to address this from the US end, especially if the former president returns.

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                        • Anonymous
                        • IbI
                        • 14 Feb 2024

                        Bravosixgoingdark, 14 Feb 2024iMessage is mostly just a US thing I have barely seen anyone use it at allThen come to America and see everyone use it.

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                          • Cpt.Power
                          • SH3
                          • 14 Feb 2024

                          Well now what??? Shall we ban them for good???

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                            • Anonymous
                            • LiZ
                            • 14 Feb 2024

                            The problem with the so called gatekeepers is not that they are too pushy or are not interoperable. After all this is the product line of a certain company and like it or not you have to pick one. Unlike many other services like water and electricity where you literally have no other choice but to use them and you can't change providers the tech world is full of options. If there is a good option it becomes global in less than a month. The problem with gatekeeping is mostly that of monopolising the market where a wide range of predatory practices are used to destroy competition.

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                              • Anonymous
                              • kje
                              • 14 Feb 2024

                              [deleted post]Yeah but gee their stuff WORKS

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                                • Ouifuf
                                • nIr
                                • 14 Feb 2024

                                MrLVegas, 13 Feb 2024But I thought android users despised anything and everything Apple-related 😟Where did this come from? Idc about imessage since myself and everyone i know uses WhatsApp but I'm just pointing out how it should be considered a gatekeeper? And apple actually make some decent stuff, would be nice if they actually shared it.

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                                  • Positive
                                  • XBA
                                  • 14 Feb 2024

                                  [deleted post]It's their money,you can't teach people how to spend their money 😏
                                  Most people don't care about all this BS,they just want a phone that works

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                                    • Bravosixgoingdark
                                    • v{u
                                    • 14 Feb 2024

                                    iMessage is mostly just a US thing I have barely seen anyone use it at all

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • raQ
                                      • 14 Feb 2024

                                      Cpt.Power, 13 Feb 2024Well force ban would do. Several millions of people will learn how to live without some apps... moreIf so then in that scenario who'd really be the gatekeeper there, Apple or the EU? Would not be a good look for the EU + Apple suing them + general bad reactions against the EU from the general public + billions of dollars of revenue lost for Apple AND the EU + the rise in illiegal importing.

                                      I mean hey, if we did it to samsung instead of apple then all of a sudden that's considered a crisis of oppression.

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                                        • Seran Mizorogi
                                        • tZ4
                                        • 14 Feb 2024

                                        iMessage may not be a gatekeeper in messaging sense since there's WhatsApp which has larger market share.

                                        But it's a powerful tool to trap their shееp perpetually in the ecosystem. I hope the EU can see through this.

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