Nothing new, just crApple trying to make something that was there for 10 years popular.
So USB 4 with Thunderbolt modes.
James Holden, 18 Aug 2023If you search for this laptop (I doubt the link will be allowed here) with the following specs... morethanks but i've a legion 5 R5 and 3060, it has 2 type c, one supports charging at 65w, the other display port as well, 4 type A (3 on the back and 1 on the right side like maniacs)...
Anonymous , 19 Aug 2023And the truth about cross platform applications isn't the thing reviewers often tell. Yea... moreSeems you are still stuck 20 years ago, you have M1 run all popular Apps from Adobe suite, Blender etc you have lot of Arm servers used everywhere, you have Nintendo Switch run same games as Pc, you have Zen cores as efficient as phones. Nowadays no architecture is superior to other not arm not X86 it depend purely on design.
And Anandtech used spec suite long time since i can remember, since ipad pro day and people used to say same thing as you said, When M1 laptop was released spec was right and you guys are wrong.
Anonymous , 19 Aug 2023You're confused with a lot of things, like the memory bandwidth. You might have read many... moreAm not confusing anything its you use assumption and ignore real data, No Android flagship use single chanell all of them use Quad chanell, Even Low end use dual chanell, i dont know in what world you got those data. Latest Adreno 740 has 64GB/S Bandwidth.
Anonymous , 19 Aug 2023It's not only about the synthetic benchmark. But also about the types of games two gpus c... moreAnd who use gfx? I provide Geekbench, Spec2016 and 3dmark, i didnt do those test but reputable site with more professional did them
Hemedans, 18 Aug 2023What Gddr6? Its Steam deck, as other rdna2 igp it use device ram, Same Lpddr5 like phone, Deck... moreAnd the truth about cross platform applications isn't the thing reviewers often tell. Yeah it might show a relevant synthetic performance across ths architectures based on cpu. But it can't show anything regarding the GPU ISA. Because it's a whole different story. And since I'm talking about the cpu architecture, it ain't relevant at all. Because it's wholy different from the architecture. For risc based cpu it can do 1 instruction per cycle to complete a task. On the other hand the cics can do more than 9 instructions per cycle to complete a task. So x86 is on another level by architecture. That's why x86 can handle much much more complex and heavy applications like nothing. On the other hand arm can be seen faster for doing light workloads. But that doesn't make arm more powerful.
Hemedans, 18 Aug 2023What Gddr6? Its Steam deck, as other rdna2 igp it use device ram, Same Lpddr5 like phone, Deck... moreYou're confused with a lot of things, like the memory bandwidth. You might have read many things but not clear at all. For low profile memories these come with single channel memory profile like the simms. Thus the bitrate is only 4 bit wide data bus. So converting 5400 mt/s into bandwidth, it's just 21.6 GB/s. On the other hand that 3200 mt/s dimms have 25.5 GB/s of bandwidth. See the difference.
Hemedans, 18 Aug 2023You can use Any benchmarks you want and Current flagship Android are faster than deck, like 3d... moreIt's not only about the synthetic benchmark. But also about the types of games two gpus can handle. The gfx benchmarks for arm aren't even a full fledged test softwares in the first place.
Fulljack, 18 Aug 2023synthetic benchmark were great when comparing similar form factor or OS, but hardly useful whe... moreYou guys just move goalpost
1. First you Question how two hardware compare
2. Someone prove your favourite hardware is weaker than other
3. Move Goalpost that its about apps and software not hardware.
Everyone knows Pc has mature software no one argue about that, we are just discussing which hardware is better, and there are trusted cross platform benchmark to prove that.
Also about software nowadays its close, these hardware are used in same os Nowadays, Qualcomm Already confirmed adreno 740 is coming to Windows, probably will be available to other os too.
And we have cross Application like Emulators (Dolphin, Yuzu, Citra, ppsspp) etc
LazyEngineer, 18 Aug 2023What is cinebench r23 score?
How gddr6 bandwidth compared to that of a LPDDR5X of SD 8gen1... moreWhat Gddr6? Its Steam deck, as other rdna2 igp it use device ram, Same Lpddr5 like phone, Deck is High clocked 5500MT/S while phone are 3200 and 4200 respectively, Deck has More Bandwidth but bandwidth alone doesnt determine how powerfull Gpu is.
Also Cinebench isnt cross platform whats the point of including it here? I gave you geekbench score and these are spec score
In spec2016 A14 was already equivalent of Zen 3 and Modern sd soc already reached A14 perfomance, they are also equivalent to Zen 3, Zen 2 in Deck is no where near Current flagship.
Hemedans, 17 Aug 2023Steamdeck score around 800 single and 3600 multi in geekbench, any soc equal or more powerfull... moreWhat is cinebench r23 score?
How gddr6 bandwidth compared to that of a LPDDR5X of SD 8gen1, Where is important instructions sets like AVX2 and AVX512 ?
You are doing nothing but cherry picking .
Comparing a modern X86 CPU with an ARM CPU is nothing but apples to oranges comparison.
FatShady, 17 Aug 2023for the past couple of years, most of them have been getting rid of the type A ports on their ... moreIf you search for this laptop (I doubt the link will be allowed here) with the following specs, you will see it has 1 type A 5Gbps, 2 type A 10Gbps and one type C 10Gbps. The Type A port will still be around for a while. It's not going away any time soon.
acer Nitro 5 Gaming Laptop | AMD Ryzen 7 6800H Octa-Core CPU | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti
There are various Ram and storage configurations that make it range from $1.3k to $2k. Trust me. The USB A port will be around till 2030.
Hemedans, 18 Aug 2023You can use Any benchmarks you want and Current flagship Android are faster than deck, like 3d... moresynthetic benchmark were great when comparing similar form factor or OS, but hardly useful when comparing cross platform hardware.
it's great to have 3dmark wild life score of 20.000 or something, but if it has no apps to uses that performance, then it all wastes.
Anonymous, 18 Aug 2023With flops, you can't even compare the performance of two architectures from the same man... moreYou can use Any benchmarks you want and Current flagship Android are faster than deck, like 3dmark wildlife unlimited Adreno 740 is slightly weaker than radeon 680m (12CU version of rdna2)
-radeon 680M median score 3.9K
-Adreno 740 median score 3.7k
Those score 680M was clocked 2.4Ghz while adreno 740 is just 0.6ghz, Deck would be slower than both because its clocked lower and has just 8CU.
you have to suffer, 18 Aug 2023lol your "get out of the rock" argument proves that you are a corporate shill😂😂😂😂 li... moreMaybe you're also living under a rock. There are so many options. Windows isn't just Dell.
Hemedans, 17 Aug 2023We are talking about synthetic perfomance, Everyone in this Comment section know deck can run ... moreWith flops, you can't even compare the performance of two architectures from the same manufacturer.
What if that is the chip to detect mfi cable?
Data transfer speed depends on the other components. The flash storage will probably bottleneck it. We've seen many so-called USB3.0 and above android type C ports, but the speed just isn't there.
Anonymous, 18 Aug 2023And yet the USB Type C people had for years had faster charging and faster data transfer speedsFaster data transfer? Maybe with Samsung, but other (Chinese) brands typically limited it to the same 480 Mbps as Apple did with Lightning.