Wake me when the EU grow a spine demand all phones support microSD and headphone jack. But they won't do that because they don't actually give an S*** about consumers
Anonymous, 13 Aug 2023If Apple wanted to win the plug wars, all they had to do was open up the standard.oops, hit submit too early. Anyways, look at Tesla. They just won the north american charging standard by certifying and standardizing their plug.
Apple does NOT want to standardize. Having a separate, proprietary plug is just another way to force users to stay in the Apple ecosystem and milk more money out of them.
If Apple wanted to win the plug wars, all they had to do was open up the standard.
Kangal, 13 Aug 2023In a better timeline, Apple would have released the Lightning Port with the USB 3.0 spec level... moreThat timeline is our timeline. Apple already had lightning with USB 3 speed and USB-PD charging. All recent iPhones have USB-PD fast charging over lightning. iPad Pro 10.5 has USB3 over lightning. So lightning as a connector is not the limitation, it’s simply Apple not using USB3 controller on iPhones.
The question is why? Well, I don’t think Apple was caught off guard by the EU. I believe Apple already has a plan for USB-C all salong, considering they switched all iPads to USB-C. But they realize there are more people on iPhones, and to keep them upgrading, having the same cable makes the upgrade decision more frictionless. It’s the same reason some low end Androids are still using micro-USB. Regular consumers often feel annoyed if the new device they upgrade to need a new cable, especially when they already have the old cables for many other accessories.
Type C is really good unless you are a wild animal it will last long.
Feem, 13 Aug 2023Apple is trying so hard to get people to buy the Pro models that it’s not even funny, somehow ... moreApple does not have to try anything. People simply buy iPhones, because they want and they can afford it.
But you... well, you seem to be one of the typical envious poor people who would like so much, but they can't...
Anonymous, 13 Aug 2023It is not about royalties, it is about official accessories. It will not come with charger... moreApple can plug a little chip in their cables so iPhone will not charge with others 😁
blue, 13 Aug 2023People who have several Lightning equipped devices and it would be expensive or ineffective to... moreIf they have money to buy several lightning powered devices it wont be expensive for thm to switch.
Anyway there are still some reductions etc that can be used.
Everyone knows that apple will pull the MFi shit on port side.
blue, 13 Aug 2023No, EU only ordered using one type of a connector. Whatever Apple limits on the port side, is ... moreNot quite true, they do have to use USB-PD for charging, and if they support a proprietary charging standard for a certain wattage, then they have to support USB-PD up to the same wattage or 100 watts, whichever is less. They can engage in shenanigans like reduced data speeds, or other proprietary BS, but they can't muck around with charging.
PeterThePanda, 13 Aug 2023EU pretty much already said that Apple can’t limit the speed of the USB cable or do things lik... moreApple is trying so hard to get people to buy the Pro models that it’s not even funny, somehow at the same time literally fooling so many people into buying the vanilla models thinking that it’s a different phone compared to last year’s vanillas.
Somehow here in the US, the number of people I know who bought a vanilla 14 over a vanilla 13 when they are literally the same exact phone makes me question humanity. I mean there’s software support since it’s a year newer maybe, but still…
And I really hope Apple doesn’t pull any MFi nonsense with USB-C. Otherwise honestly, making Apple use USB-C won’t have much of an effect… we will still have to use specific cables for iPhone. I guess it depends on how much Apple will regulate it…
Kangal, 13 Aug 2023In a better timeline, Apple would have released the Lightning Port with the USB 3.0 spec level... moreIn that timeline we would also have removable batteries and removable memory cards
I am glad EU do the right thing for the industry. Apple is known for creating proprietary with no benefits and value as compare to USB-c that is industry standard. Basically asking apple consumers to pay more . Also creating electronic waste for having a proprietary lighting cable.
In a better timeline, Apple would have released the Lightning Port with the USB 3.0 spec level. Which would have enabled faster charging, faster connections, and extra feature-set. And as a response, the USB Consortium would have released the Type-C connection also with a 3.0 base level specification.
So we would have all these cheap and midrange Android Phones, who would either resort to using USB 2.0 and be stuck on the old microUSB port.... or they would actually have to upgrade and go with USB 3.0 to get the Type-C port. Meanwhile, Apple's iOS devices would have aged much better, in particular, their iPads and MacBooks which get (4K/60Hz) microHDMI out functionality through the Lightning Port. The EU Commission is lighter on Apple's case, and thus we see both sides happy.
Eventually, we see Apple lead the industry and they are the ones to set the scene for USB 4.0 which uses a newer stronger connector than DisplayPort, HDMI, USB-C, and Lightning.... and it gets far higher charging rates of +100W, much greater connectivity speeds almost Pcie-like, and allows 240Hz, VRR, 8K, and 12-bit Dolby Vision-Atmos.
....but that's all in the best timeline, we are living in one of the darker timelines :'(
Mimster, 13 Aug 2023Using USB-C for all devices is a good thing. Forcing any manufacturer on the other hand is not.Forcing only one type of connector is good too. It just should be for all small electronic devices. Not only phones, but cycling lights, outdoor equipment, camping equipment and many, many others. It's funny that I buy a bike light in 2023 and it still has microUSB.
IcyJay30, 13 Aug 2023Which kind of species voted for the otherwise?People who have several Lightning equipped devices and it would be expensive or ineffective to change them.
PeterThePanda, 13 Aug 2023EU pretty much already said that Apple can’t limit the speed of the USB cable or do things lik... moreNo, EU only ordered using one type of a connector. Whatever Apple limits on the port side, is purely up to them. They can limit charging speed, data transfer speed, they can limit audio or video output, they can even require MFi. And still it will be USB-C.
Using USB-C for all devices is a good thing. Forcing any manufacturer on the other hand is not.
LoL look at those minority apple fans in green and blue 🤣
PeterThePanda, 13 Aug 2023The only harm that switching from Lightning to USB-C will be is on Apple’s profits.
They c... moreIt is not about royalties, it is about official accessories.
It will not come with charger. Cable is too fragile that is going to break in months.
Why paying X for new one if you can get from android brands at 1/3 of its price?