Anonymous, 01 Jun 2023Why tf 40 Ultra costs $400 more?Because Ultra phone means Ultra price😂
I can already tell Michael Fisher is ditching his Samsung foldables after using them exclusively for 3.5 years and will use a Pixel Fold and Motorola Razr+ as his daily drivers for this year. There will be some drawbacks.
Samsung has already built a better ecosystem around their products than Google. Pixel Fold lacks stylus support and something similar to Dex. Samsung’s software optimization is probably still superior to Google as it's Gen 5 vs. Gen 1.
Razr+ uses last year's SoC that the Flip 4 and Razr 2022 already have. Packs only 300 mAh more battery capacity than last year's Razr while powering a higher refresh rate and bigger cover display. Would Mike really want to use last year's SoC for another year? It feels more like a Z Flip 5 Lite.
Google lacks the trade-in deals that Samsung offers during pre-orders. I'm agreeing with Mike that the cheaper model Razr or the one catered to dads might be the more intriguing model to get. What if it's only priced at $599 like a Pixel 6 and 7? This would be the best-selling foldable and flip of this year.
As for me, I'm not really interested in either of them. Phones haven't really wowed me since 2021. Owning a Z Flip 3 since launch, I don't feel I need to upgrade mine. And yes, battery life is fine for my needs since I'll bring 2 to 3 other phones with me, a Vita, and a power bank. I don't mind topping it off daily. I'm aware how more efficient Snap 8+ Gen 1 is but the 888 isn't that horrendous.
The most intriguing smartphone of 2023 for me is really the Pixel Fold but I'll hear horror stories about the Z Fold 3 cracking in the middle with enough times opening it. Then the Z Flip 4 using a weaker hinge. I do like the Razr+ being rounded on the sides. The magenta in real life looks far better than the renders. I do dig that faux leather back.
The bigger cover display has never been a big deal. It's not "2 phones in 1" because you can say the same thing about the Surface Duo and book-style foldables. You're still getting a square display when most apps are built for portrait. You're really only getting half of a slab phone from the outside.
I think the Razr+ is a nice phone but I'll probably wait for next year's which I hope will have 8 Gen 3 and not a year old SoC. I think the two punch holes from the cover display will get annoying. I do love that they finally added wireless charging. I'll wait for a better design on this and the Z Flip. Don't care for the Flip 5's folder-shaped cover display.
I'm glad Mike showed his love for Motorola in this video as he's always been a self-proclaimed Motorola fanboy. He'll tell you. He once interviewed Martin Cooper for goodness sakes. Mike will always be partial to the granddaddy of cellular phones. But I do feel the last two gens of Razrs have felt more Chinese than American. More Lenovo than Motorola.
That cheaper Razr is the more practical one to get. I've lived with a 1.9" cover display for nearly 2-years. I use it daily to watch Pluto TV using CoverScreen OS. I can definitely live with 1.5" since I prefer listening to content when I'm streaming. It's cheap and it packs 4200 mAh. That's all I really want from a phone. I want the battery life to last long as and I don't want it to break the bank for it.
The Motorola I really want is that Rizr concept shown in CES. That looks like a phone 10 years into the future. That makes foldables look ancient. Foldables are becoming "been there, done that." I can do a lot of the same things on my Pixel 3 than on my Razr 5G. "Oh, wow. I can watch Netflix from a 2.7" display. Big whoop!" The novelty for folding screens wears off eventually.
I'm happy with what I got. I'm using my Flip 3 as my main phone again. My Razr 5G to play movies or TV shows in the background. Then sometimes I'll bring my Pixel 3, iPhone SE (2022), and a modded Vita when I feel like it. Those are 5 of my favorite things I own. I wish Motorola would return to the Razr design from 2019-2020. The 2022-2023 ones are RINOs: Razr In Name Only.
2023 Phone Watchlist
1. Google Pixel Fold
2. Motorola Razr+
3. Motorola Razr (2023)
4. Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 5
5. Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 5
Razr 5G remains the best-looking foldable flip phone so far. Ok, maybe you can argue Razr 2019 looks better but that had issues and was e-sim only and a Verizon-exclusive. Vivo X Flip might have the 3rd best design and the best among non-Moto foldable flips. Flip 3 and 4 would rank in the top 10. Not sure Flip 5 surpasses their design but will definitely surpass them in practicality.
A $600 Razr 2023 would get me intrigued. Because I expect it to be $300 only 6 months after release. This would change the game the way a $400 Steam Deck did. A 7 Gen 1 is nearly equal in efficiency as the 8+ Gen 1 according to nanoreview.net. I tolerated a 765G for nearly 2 years and with 2800 mAh. Razr 2023 should last longer.
Honestly the first foldables I actually like
robi10101298, 01 Jun 2023I don't understand why foldables/ flip phones are having crap cameras, why it's so c... moreHow's that ''shitty''? Because, ok, it's not the best camera in the world, but frankly, the photos shown are not disgusting!
I don't understand why foldables/ flip phones are having crap cameras, why it's so complicated to put a good camera hardware on them?
After waiting for so looong, i like it
"the Razr+ with 256GB of storage will become available on June 23 from Motorola, Amazon, Best Buy, AT&T, T-Mobile, Google Fi, Optimum Mobile, and Spectrum Mobile. It will cost $999"
Nice price tbh. This means the vanilla Razr will be around 699$ probably, and if you wait for Black Friday, it might go down to 499$ or 599$.
Why tf 40 Ultra costs $400 more?
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