rizki1, 30 May 2023Mobile SoC use the same power as PC? I don't know what you mean, but the mobile phone SoC... moreSd 8 gen 2 use as much as 12W under load, you can configure lot of modern comouter cpu to use less than that, Steam deck can use less than that.
If you are old enough we had Intel pc cpu in phone,
Those use X86 cpu and consume less power than today arm core.
Cpu power consumption is just design, and many designer say there is no difference between Arm and X86 nowadays, one can use any architecture to achieve low power usage, they just need to design it from scratch for that purpose.
Max, 30 May 2023What are you talking about? Computer chips use 25 to 45 watts in laptops and Intel i9 13900k u... moreYou picked most power hungry soc and ignore those efficient one?
I gave you Example of Steam deck you can set it to use 3W or 5w and still be able to play AAA games for hours.
Same to Zen 4 plenty of power efficient soc, Normal one have TDP down of 9W, and Phoenix 2 Apu with Hybrid cores will go as low as 5W.
Hemedans, 30 May 2023Why is it impressive when we live in Age when Mobile soc use as much power as PC one sometime ... moreWhat are you talking about? Computer chips use 25 to 45 watts in laptops and Intel i9 13900k uses more than 100w
All these don't matter to anyone except very, very few people who do constantly do benchmarks and play games on regular basis, usually at highest settings. 8 gen 2 is a great chip which is good for another 5 years for vast majority of people. Now that they moved to TSMC and abandoned the horrible Samsung, they should really stop releasing new chip every year and wait until a noticeable advancement is made. This would keep price down for phones. Every year new phones are released with minimal to no improvement yet costs more.
Hemedans, 30 May 2023Why is it impressive when we live in Age when Mobile soc use as much power as PC one sometime ... moreMobile SoC use the same power as PC? I don't know what you mean, but the mobile phone SoC is much smaller Watt.
rizki1, 30 May 2023That's already quite impressive, because it's PC games.Why is it impressive when we live in Age when Mobile soc use as much power as PC one sometime even surpass it?
Like that Cortex X3 inside 8 gen 2 use more than 4W just one core, you can Run whole steam deck soc at 3W or 5W power while one Mobile cou core use more power than whole PC Cpu/Apu.
Anonymous, 30 May 2023Tgere was Kirin chip that beating mediatek & Snapdragon in mobile GPU
But the mainstream ... moreIntel Made new Gpu and had problems with drivers and Backward compability, they invest a lot in drivers and solving those issue, each update improve their gpu and recent ones boost DX9 a lot. They are not far behind Amd and Nvidia now.
It's not magic you just have to Employ right people and pay them to make/optimize driver for your Gpu, but for Some reasons both Arm and Soc maker ignore Mali issues.
Anonymous, 29 May 2023This A720 will use N4P or N3 which is perhaps in high demand
The SD 695 use old technic and t... moreEven 6nm was flagship level, sd 695 and 778G came 2 years ago (2021) when 5nm was best manufacturing process, and previous flagship soc sd 865 from 2020 used 7nm.
This year with Apple moving 3nm it means lot of capacity is freed in 4nm, we saw Dimensity 8200, sd 7+ gen 2, Dimension 7200 already in 4nm and they are not flagship Soc.
intel , amd, via need to look at this market and do something
Anonymous, 30 May 2023Tgere was Kirin chip that beating mediatek & Snapdragon in mobile GPU But the mainstream ... moreThe kirin 'gpu' was your standard mali gpu, only a bit more better than sd 888 despite being on tsmc.
TheLastOracle, 30 May 2023Why do the improvements in GPU seem mostly dismal?
Also, not sure why laptop CPUs aren't... moreTgere was Kirin chip that beating mediatek & Snapdragon in mobile GPU
But the mainstream narrative dislike it
The main reason ARM not popular in notebook is windows game/software backwards compatibility.
Why do the improvements in GPU seem mostly dismal?
Also, not sure why laptop CPUs aren't getting much better with ARM processors, especially considering their ability for much better cooling and thus sustained performance.
Also it's terrible having only Snapdragon and Mediatek in the Android space. Samsung needs to seriously pull up it's socks. Until the S7, Exynos was pretty impressive.
Anonymous, 29 May 20238g2/D9200 are unable to run genshi at 1080p60. To.sustain 60fps,phones use about 840p. That's already quite impressive, because it's PC games.
Anonymous, 29 May 2023So, ppl here demand more power because games? So futile ... No wonder these SoC cost way ... moreTsmc monopoly is bad that's why I hope Samsung and Intel release capable fans so the prices will go down
I wish this flagship SoC would be implemented in a mini-PC platform with all the I/O for multi-display, multiple HDDs/SSDs (RAID), lots of USB-(3 or 4) ports, proper active cooling, and runs Linux. I would happily run my Shinobi CCTV and Nextcloud 24/7 with this.
Anonymous, 29 May 2023If you only look at the inaccurate GSMArena battery test and nothing else one could come to th... moreWhy do you think it's inaccurate? Do you have much more objective procedure in testing all smartphones regardless of brand?
and all that power will be wasted on social media...