Omer, 29 May 2023I hear what you're saying man. I was just pointing out one aspect where the S23FE will (m... moreWell man honestly for me hardware is always more than a software.
Because with bad hardware your software will not work.
But with good hardware even a bad software can be fixed and perfectly working.
Phone is not a desktop computer where you swap some broken or outdated parts for new one and will perfectly working like good as new.
Cpt.Power, 27 May 2023Man uopdates matters but they arent everything. For example know several people with old anc... moreI hear what you're saying man. I was just pointing out one aspect where the S23FE will (most likely) do better. Every individual will prioritize features/aspects of a phone differently. It's all good.
No telephoto? Ultra rubbish.
mightyshipppp, 27 May 2023Its a branding term meant to signify how good they want you to think it is. Its the super mega... moretotally missed it! 2012 Xperia is so much fun, each phone as it owns unique gimmick. Xperia Sola with it's 'floating touch' or the Xperia U with it's lighting gimmicks
Omer, 27 May 2023Except for how long they will get software updates I guess.Man uopdates matters but they arent everything.
For example know several people with old ancient Samsung S3 or S4, Sony Z5 etc which are long time pass last update and phone still perfectly working.
You cant put this into argument.
By the way you can have even 100 years of updates if your hardware wont keep up it makes no sense to ahve them because you cant update your hardware like you did with your software.
Lovelandmark, 27 May 2023RMB3,000 that sometimes means almost 700 euro (after tax) when it released as other, Xiaomi-br... moreYeah, that price would convert to around €700 based on Xiaomi's standard roughly 70% higher prices in Europe. That's inevitable. If it comes to Europe it eould be under Xiaomi branding as it would be too expensive in Europe for Redmi branding. Don't really see that as ultra pricing. It's the standard sort of price for an entry level phone with flagship chipset these days
Aierlan, 27 May 2023The price won't be ultra. It will probably be around 3,000rmb as per the k50 ultraRMB3,000 that sometimes means almost 700 euro (after tax) when it released as other, Xiaomi-branded sub flagship internationally. RMB prices can only serve as a benchmark, and for things that Xiaomi proposed for K60 Ultra, 700 euro sound like "ultra prices" for me at least.
mightyshipppp, 27 May 2023Its a branding term meant to signify how good they want you to think it is. Its the super mega... more... and the K60 Ultra is no exception.
It is just a K60, but NOT just a regular K60, they add something more. Faster system (D9200 rumored to be, at least, as fast as SD8 G2) is just one of the items on the list.
Aierlan, 27 May 2023The k60 ultra will be China only. Maybe they will rebrand as the Xiaomi 13t pro but in previou... moreMan 12 T pro came with 200 Mpix camera.
In other words it would be better choice to S22 FE if there were any.
This K60 will be in global version known as 13T pro xiaomi and this 13T pro will be a better choice than S23 FE.
Reasons are many and very simple. Betterr CPU (No exynos).
Better and faster charging plus charger in the box, case in box along with cable samsung havent any, better cameras 12T pro had 200 Mpix (samsung couldnt compete with S21 FE)
Mui less heavy skin than One UI uses less ram and disk space to work.
All MUI skin apps can be uninstalled for more smooth experience (Most preinstalled samsung apps remains there and cant be deleted)
There is a lot more honestly this is just basic.
One and only thing samsung done better is updates. But honestly this does no matter much.
Reasons are 2 and very simple.
1. Most users keeps their phones for 2-3 years where even xiaomi offers its updates in this period. Then most users will swap for new freshly working device.
2. Having 5-6 years of updates is nice to have if your hardware can keep up with software. Honestly this never happened and will never happens.
After certain of App and OS updates some of your apps will laggs and will ot works as before because your hardware will not keep up with latest software.
For example advanced games or 4k or 8k photo and video editor.
Its just as this.
Anonymous, 27 May 2023don't forget ultra prices!The price won't be ultra. It will probably be around 3,000rmb as per the k50 ultra
Cpt.Power, 27 May 2023With a price exact to S23 FE this wil be a lot better choice tzo pick from because of a much b... moreThe k60 ultra will be China only. Maybe they will rebrand as the Xiaomi 13t pro but in previous years there were some changes to the camera. For example last year the k50 ultra and 12t pro were basically the same except the cameras. The global 12t pro had a much better main camera sensor. Doubt if it will habe a much better camera setup than the s23 fe though. The k60 ultra is not positioned as a camera centric series
With a price exact to S23 FE this wil be a lot better choice tzo pick from because of a much better camera, charging speeds, other specs, charger, case, cable in the box and less heavy skin compared to One UI.
240z, 26 May 2023agreed. when Sony first used the name 'Ultra' they really offered Ultra sized phone ... moreIts a branding term meant to signify how good they want you to think it is. Its the super mega turbo ultimate pro plus max ultra phone. Like when Nvidia inventing Super out of nowhere for its 2000 series graphics cards. But honestly I think Super would be better at this point, certainly better than Apple's Pro Max thing seemed at the started but everyone has got used to that.
But man the Xperia Z Ultra is certainly a blast from the past, I miss weird gimmick concept phones like. "When phones were fun" as the youtuber Mr Mobile/Michael Fischer would say. Also weird to think that in 2013 it was unreasonably huge at 6.4" but now that is normal, even small to some people!
Anonymous, 26 May 2023Looks like a phoneEvery phone would look like one, literally
Anonymous, 27 May 2023"how is that ultra" By fooling us with ultra name. don't forget ultra prices!
Anonymous, 26 May 2023Hoping to have an "i' version like K50i with a near perfect LCD panel 😍K50i is actually a rebrand of Poco X4 GT. I don't think it is related to the original K50 series.
Come on please remove the shitty 2mp