Anonymous, 15 May 2023BQ from Spain had interesting devices few years ago, no longer selling. There was General Mo... moreThere is still Gigaset in Germany and Fairphone in the Netherlands.
TheLastOracle, 15 May 2023The asking must be unreasonable. Otherwise I am guessing OPPO would pay. It's a pretty la... moreDoes not matter how much nokia is asking.
Nokia has something oppo needs.
Oppo can pay, delevop own tech or stop using.
Some brands have been stable like asus, sony, motorola. Other like samsung has faced little decline compared to previous years. Apple has grown while chinese OEMs are falling. Even in China they are facing 8, 10, 15% lower number of devices sold yoy.
Now they are doing all they can to save money.
Shame
The UK one still standing strong
Mr. Anonymous, 15 May 2023I wonder which other manufacturers have the same issue with Nokia patents. Are we going to see... moreHopefully. Brands like Fairphone shiftphone or gigaset, should take their place, at least those are doing something for innovation.
Anonymous, 15 May 2023yes phone market will be boring as hell at least in Europe not in asian.Yep because a wheelbarrow of new phones a week from China really pivoted current technology, even if no one can notice their "undeniable footprint".
But wait, i think i remember something, wait it was tha... Eh, hmm, sorry, nope, nothing.
Zuzuz, 15 May 2023What are you talking about?! Oppo, Xiaomi have a poor quality? Chinese brands got inside Europ... moreActually, chinese brands were made big by selling paper specs and stolen tech on the cheap, as a strategy to compete with western established brands. As for quality nice laughter, thanks.
Anonymous, 15 May 2023horrible jealousy .. they want to wipe all chinese brands..Oh the horrors chinese brands need to endure from the likes of this big bad West. I mean they are all saints and did no wrong. They just stay there and make money out of tech they received for free and out of curtency from western innovators and developers (that invested billions in research).... But now the big bad West, is jealous because this brands sell to much.
Anonymous, 15 May 2023Oppo does not want to pay what nokia wants to use nokia's tech.
So oppo is leaving , not... moreI'd rather say that that's an excuse for them to hide the truth that their market in europe got so small is probably insignificant.
At the end, they still need to pay nokia no matter where they sell their devices because they use nokia tech. The only country that does not care about intelligence property, is china, well might be some other too, but most probably nokia will stand no chance to fight them there, nobody does. Contrafit products and stollen tech are on their streets at every corner like fastfood restaurants in the west.
Mr. Anonymous, 15 May 2023Perhaps that would stimulate existing european brands to release more compelling devices or ev... moreBy compelling, you mean cheap? Probably, well let me put it this way, it won't happen. First because people in europe are paied with actuall money and have rights, nobody works 24 Hours a day. This plus taxes cost way more money then owning a company in china all together.
you have to suffer, 15 May 2023so people in germany would only have a choice to buy iphones or low end android phones? let al... moreTo understand, oppo is the only brand in existance? It is the only one, true, but the only one going
TheLastOracle, 15 May 2023The asking must be unreasonable. Otherwise I am guessing OPPO would pay. It's a pretty la... moreVery unreasonable, that is why only two 3 chinese brands have problems paying...
ACHTUNg, 15 May 2023What are you doing guys? Why you don't negotiate with Nokia?If they would have had a big market, they would have negociate with Nokia, they would most probably not even do what they did, by not paying for years and stuff like that. But they just milked the cow as much as they could then said by by. They will very probably get out of europe and of business, sooner then expected, this looks like a typical: i apply for bankruptcy, my pocket is tough full, pack and outta here, next brand DUOPPO, clean and without debts. But who knows? Maybe they are better then this, even tough i doubt it.
Anonymous, 15 May 2023Blame oppo. Oppo just needs to pay nokia. Simple. The asking must be unreasonable. Otherwise I am guessing OPPO would pay. It's a pretty large brand
Anonymous, 15 May 2023Just because carriers offer the contracts with 1€ phones and 70€ per month payment doesn’t mea... moreSorry, the reply was not to you but the OP you were replying to. Very sorry.
Anonymous, 15 May 2023Just because carriers offer the contracts with 1€ phones and 70€ per month payment doesn’t mea... moreHere it's the complete opposite. In effect, those are monthly installments to pay the "1€/free" phone. Therefore, only those who want a phone they cannot afford make such contracts. Prices are changing all the time, with new carriers entering the market and competing in price. Paying upfront for the smartphone and having the choice to change plan/carrier at any time is usually the smarter choice, most average citizens that are not living beyond their means realize that. Furthermore, those who travel frequently to non-eurozone countries (e.g., Switzerland) usually require a carrier unlocked phone to have local SIM.
Because of this, Europe is one of the best markets for carrier unlocked phones. Anyone leaving such a competitive market does so because they cannot face such fierce competition, unlike other places where state or carries put the finger on the scales to tip the balance.
They are being pushed out. no backdoor for german gov.
GrumpyEuropean, 15 May 2023Well, sorry but that is not true. Nothing goes on the main stream market without a contract. ... moreJust because carriers offer the contracts with 1€ phones and 70€ per month payment doesn’t mean people buy that. Maybe your friends are rich or something but from the people I know, everybody does exactly what I described. Maybe you live in a city.
Anonymous, 15 May 2023Popular among fickle-minded consumers who are always looking to jump to the next shiny bandwag... moreOne Plus 1, X, 2, 3, 3T, 5, 5t, 6 and 6t were crap.
Except the SoC, there were nothing better than midrange motorola like X Pure/Style.
This is why hey were cheaper than flagships from samsung, sony, htc, lg, motorola, asus and apple.
Goes to show how much you can trust Chinese companies 😂.
They even said it was "fake rumors" lmao.
Well, that means OnePlus is on the chopping block, too.And probably vivo.
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