Anonymous, 10 Sep 2021I honestly can respect your input about this phone but I do believe everyone has a choice to b... moreOnce again, the issue is that some very loud member of the smartphone community and OEMs pushed only by the desire to be the first to offer it to have an edge to sell the most, both want this tech to be THE ONLY AVAILABLE CHOICE THERE IS.
Which is WRONG, literally I was answering to such comment.
And regardless how much it improves, there will always be issues, privacy is one of the biggest one, and the other is that there are MUCH BETTER alternatives that achieve THE EXACT SAME RESULT, such as "disappearing camera", that this UDC thingy by being forced into the center of the attention is preventing from becoming a thing.
https://www.gsmarena.com/googles_first_foldable_could_have_a_disappearing_underdisplay_camera-news-49223.php
https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-under-display-camera-phone-1188611/
AnonD-909757, 09 Sep 2021And this, is EXACTLY why I am against UDC. Honestly, I couldn't care less if it exists o... moreI honestly can respect your input about this phone but I do believe everyone has a choice to buy or don't buy and your dissatisfaction is with the front camera which u are right it's still not the best but it's a work in progress
Anonymous, 09 Sep 2021A flagship phone should never be worth more than 500 $I think it is impressive that you can get the best smartphones in the entire world for just 1000 dollars.
K, 09 Sep 2021Eventually all phones will become under display. Samsung S series even iPhone.
This is wha... moreAnd this, is EXACTLY why I am against UDC.
Honestly, I couldn't care less if it exists on the market, phones with awful tech in it.
Not only, everyone is free to have whatever they want, but it is exactly what I want, freedom for anyone to get whatever they want.
But having everyone forced into a single tech, which is non arguably the worst solution possible because of its huge list of cons, this isn't something that I can tolerate.
What we need is diversity, not a lack of it, no market ever do that for a good reason.
Having UDC in the market? Sure, but it should not justify to remove any other, and when I say any other, I mean the already rare one like bezel, pop up, flip up, sliders, no front camera (second display on the back or not), than those who are already doing this like teardrop notches and punch holes.
What we need is a good enough number of those, so there is the possibility for whoever wants it to find even niche combination of features.
Obviously techs like pop up, flip up and sliders are in much inferior demands than bezels, so obviously less phones models with those would be available, but also, for each feature types, less individual units of those models would simply be made, simply based on the volume of demand.
That's how every single other industry on the planet works, and this is the healthiest for consumers.
MAINLY with smartphones where so many things can just be re-used and where it is almost child play to simply make a sub-variant of a phone with a different feature/design.
Things like cheap phones with high-end SoC like the original Pocophone had should be more common, or midrange specs with premium camera setup, but the only reason why don't have this is pure greed, simply to force anyone who want a powerful/great camera device to buy expensive ones.
This is pure anti-consumer.
AnonD-909757, 08 Sep 2021Do people still care about underdisplay camera though?
It feels like the hype is already fadi... moreEventually all phones will become under display. Samsung S series even iPhone.
This is what all candy bar phones are evolving to.
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You : Let's have fun trying to annoy this perfect stranger for absolutely no reasons.
Also you : You are crazy dude, look at me, I am a perfectly stable individual.
Sure!
6.92" display not 5.92" as in this article.
Acorns, 09 Sep 2021Wow dude you easily triggered lol 😂✌️That's what happen when you are constantly debating with idiots, you easily lose patience.
Though I simply said the truth here, you are the one who try to make it as if it was an intended troll or turn back the situation to have been put back to your place by trying to bring the attention into me supposedly being triggered.
But excuse me that while you are doing this, I am trying to avoid that the Smartphone market become worse than it actually is, your opposition is of a great value for the dystopian future that idiots are slowly but surely building without realizing it.
Acorns, 09 Sep 2021Wow dude you easily triggered lol 😂✌️Yes, very triggered. Possibly low hormone as well.
A flagship phone should never be worth more than 500 $
AnonD-909757, 08 Sep 2021Did you mean to give a live demonstration of my answer to rizki1? I prefer no front camera ov... moreWow dude you easily triggered lol 😂✌️
Acorns, 08 Sep 2021Ok enough now, everybody gets it, you like pop up cameras and hate punch holes and under displ... moreDid you mean to give a live demonstration of my answer to rizki1?
I prefer no front camera over pop up, heck, I didn't even write "pop up" in this answer you replied to.
And this is hilarious that you say "Just accept different people like different things and move" because the very reason why I talk so much about pop up isn't because I like it more than other options, but because there is so much unjustified hate toward it that I defend it more often, EXACTLY because people DON'T accept that something else than their own tastes and/or what is trending can exist.
And the very reason why I fight against underdiplay camera is EXACTLY because the industry, pushed by those exact people, want to make the UDC the ONLY AVAILABLE option.
But since debating with people on here feel like trying to communicate with a bot with no capability to understand basic sentences, and who won't change whatever it said, regardless how many explanations or proofs you gave, I am not surprised to have to, yet again, explain this.
AnonD-909757, 08 Sep 2021It was made to sell using a huge hype train that anyone outside this tech can easily see is to... moreOk enough now, everybody gets it, you like pop up cameras and hate punch holes and under display cameras. Just accept not everybody, myself 8ncluded have a problem with punch hole front cameras. I really don't notice it's there and would rather have it than big bezels or a notch. I'm not against pop up cameras either but prefer less moving parts but I agree it's probably the best solution for a true full screen experience along with a good ffc. Just accept different people like different things and move on instead of ranting in every thread about how great pop up cameras are dude. Anyways peace to you buddy just chill and enjoy whatever phone you have ✌️
If only ZTE was better at software support, I would definitely consider it.
But let's talk build quality. For 500 USD, a plastick back is a bit unacceptable for me.
The selfy shot there looks terrible. It's like a cardboard cut out put in a picture.
Most companies can do photos, but maybe none do good video at 8k, and none do very good at 4k, and the camera apps are often lacking or woeful and lacking, and anybody who wants to do good video, should get an extra app, even a free one like open camera.
rizki1, 08 Sep 2021yes a slim bezel like nubia red magic or new xperia phones today. UDC is made I think to count... moreIt was made to sell using a huge hype train that anyone outside this tech can easily see is totally exaggerated, even compared to usual delusional hype trains.
It was a promise of something more than a real tech, as much as the punch hole was, but exactly like punch holes and notches never fixed any issues but only bring new ones, so it will.
AnonD-909757, 08 Sep 2021Funny how when I talk about pop up, flip up or no front camera as an alternative to UDC, the e... moreyes a slim bezel like nubia red magic or new xperia phones today. UDC is made I think to counter punch holes and notch, making the screen clean without being annoying to see.
This looks perfect to me. And price is adequate, samsung will charge you $2000 at least for this tech, while their UD in fold 3 is just awful.
But would like to have it with Qi charging + reverse, if no 3.5 jack.
rizki1, 08 Sep 2021yeah this tech has been waited from notch come, who not like and hype about it? maybe except y... moreFunny how when I talk about pop up, flip up or no front camera as an alternative to UDC, the excuse is that punch holes are easy to forget and take no space.
But when it comes to justifying UDC, suddenly punch holes become this awful thing we should get rid of at any cost...
And you didn't understand the low price problem, it isn't what it cost now the issue, it is how much future phones will cost.
Well, if they keep making UDC with crappy quality, the price will indeed not really increase much though, except for the need to cover all the R&D of course.
A slim bezel like the Nubia Red Magics is infinitely better than this contraption.
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