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Apple patents periscope lens design for its iPhones with two prisms, LG and Corning working on liquid lenses Comments

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  • DaFink
  • nGx
  • 15 Jul 2021

[deleted post]I have been and so will continue to enjoy it thanks.

LieOS eh, you steal that or did it take you this long to think it up?

And I couldn’t give less of flying f*ck what 1.3 billion other people choose, I decide for myself. My only hope is that unlike you, they have better things to do with their time than prattle on endlessly about it.

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    • paqcal
    • QKC
    • 15 Jul 2021

    Anonymous, 13 Jul 2021Apple as usual always copying and stealing, zero originality. No wonder so many iPhone users ... moreApple’s first periscope patent was filed way back on October 2013. It was rumored to be included on iphone 7.

    https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=8&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=9285566&OS=9285566&RS=9285566

    https://www.techworm.net/2015/02/apple-iphone-7-to-come-with-periscope-camera-patent-no-20150042870-mirror-tilt-actuation-points-to-the-same.html

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      • DaFink
      • nGx
      • 15 Jul 2021

      Anonymous, 15 Jul 2021Where is your right to buy a phone that supports more than 20W fast charging in the ios ecosys... moreI see your post got removed, seems I’m not the only one that see’s the stuff your coming out with as total nonsense.

      I have the right to leave the iOS eco system whoever I choose should any of the trivial cr*p you just mentioned start to matter to me.

      And seeing as how I have a sizeable investment in apps and media on the play store waiting for me should I decide to do that, it won’t be much on an issue .

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        • Magnificent
        • nDy
        • 15 Jul 2021

        Anonymous, 14 Jul 2021It has come to a point where even if Apple is wiped off the face of the planet, people wouldn&... morePeople dont care because are unaware of what would Apple do to the market because, Apple is gone like you said...
        M1 is the latest and greatest, and now everybody amd, intel, QC want to jump...arm will revolution the servers and so on...
        Like you said...poor minded people would not care, but Apple is the main jewel here

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          • Anonymous
          • gnQ
          • 15 Jul 2021

          DaFink, 14 Jul 2021For that analogy to be anything other than sheer stupidity, it would have to be that I am some... moreWhere is your right to buy a phone that supports more than 20W fast charging in the ios ecosystem?
          Where is your right or choice to buy a phone that supports standard type C? or get any of the various other features thar are absent on ios?

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            • DaFink
            • nGx
            • 14 Jul 2021

            [deleted post]For that analogy to be anything other than sheer stupidity, it would have to be that I am somehow denied my consumer rights to choose to purchase whatever I please, whenever I please.

            As this is not the case, it’s right back to being sheer stupidity….

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              • Shanti Dope
              • C9a
              • 14 Jul 2021

              zD, 13 Jul 20212 prisms = sensor placed like regular cam with no prims could lead to a bigger sensor + prism,... moreLarger sensor also requires larger prism glass to cover up the whole surface area, so the lens would still be larger after all.

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                • OhNom
                • Cfs
                • 14 Jul 2021

                AnonD-1003038, 14 Jul 2021Gotta love it when you people pick and choose all the best features from all the various Andro... moreI agree, but dark mode is an Android feature, not layers

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                  • DaFink
                  • nGx
                  • 14 Jul 2021

                  Anonymous, 14 Jul 2021"the various Android vendors are predominantly at war with each other." Because o... moreFunny I thought prison was something you had no choice in, who’s forcing your sorry a*s to buy Apple products?

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                    • SuuperBaka
                    • q}I
                    • 14 Jul 2021

                    Anonymous, 13 Jul 2021Bayer has no issues. Otherwise would not be the most used. It is based on our eyes. The RGG... moreGreat explanation, but some of the things you might wanna look over, like the 5MP part.

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                      • Anonymous
                      • M0x
                      • 14 Jul 2021

                      Magnificent, 14 Jul 2021Without Apple...tech segment was nothingIt has come to a point where even if Apple is wiped off the face of the planet, people wouldn't care. Apple is busy stealing and playing copycat

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                        • Anonymous
                        • asP
                        • 14 Jul 2021

                        DaFink, 14 Jul 2021Well said, people keep speaking about Android in monolithic terms, but that is not how it is. ... more"the various Android vendors are predominantly at war with each other."

                        Because of this war, we get latest tech early as opposed to 5-10 years late like on iPhone.
                        Because of this war, people have great choice in Android world, unlike zero choice inside the pri$on called iOS. iOS users have to pay 1000$ for outdated hardware and software. Nothing is more lower tier than paying good money and getting ancient hardware and software.

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                          • DaFink
                          • nGx
                          • 14 Jul 2021

                          AnonD-1003038, 14 Jul 2021Gotta love it when you people pick and choose all the best features from all the various Andro... moreWell said, people keep speaking about Android in monolithic terms, but that is not how it is.
                          Even what runs on pixels cannot really be considered 'pure' android, but is more Google's own take on things.

                          Things are even more segregated at the hardware level, and far from being this unified front versus the evil Apple hord, the various Android vendors are predominantly at war with each other.

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                            • Magnificent
                            • nDy
                            • 14 Jul 2021

                            Without Apple...tech segment was nothing

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                              • Anonymous
                              • yZ6
                              • 14 Jul 2021

                              AnonD-1003038, 14 Jul 2021Gotta love it when you people pick and choose all the best features from all the various Andro... moreHe is making correct points. If your are so unhappy with this site then bugger off. No one would miss u

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                                • Nick Tegrataker
                                • Xpf
                                • 14 Jul 2021

                                Anonymous, 13 Jul 2021Bayer has no issues. Otherwise would not be the most used. It is based on our eyes. The RGG... moreI've already called you out on this hundreds of time before, but let me make this once again: Plastic lenses are much easier to design and those tiny phone camera lenses often have a 40MP+ equivalent of resolving capability as proven by phones like the regular Galaxy S21 and Mate X2.
                                https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idCamera1=30003&idCamera2=300744&idCamera3=300781
                                Glass lenses have higher optical transparency as well as refractive index therefore used more readily on interchangeable lenses where the increase in cost by using glass as a material wouldn't be a huge concern (though sometimes aspheric elements are still made of plastic). But plastic lenses can only resolve 5MP? Quit lying so blatantly, mate.

                                "google loves to do it"
                                Google is more lenient than the most when it comes to JPEG sharpening.

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                                  • Nick Tegrataker
                                  • Xpf
                                  • 14 Jul 2021

                                  TheLastOracle, 13 Jul 2021Apple marketing will call this 're-inventing the wheel'. Lol On a more serious no... moreWell, that's because Bayer Filter is the most practical one. Complementary CFAs such as CYGM filter suffer from serious colour artifacts, RGBW filter absorbs more light per exposure but raises chroma noise level in the image (though white pixels can be used for chroma denoising), RYYB somewhat worked well in JPEG after years of Huawei's colour processing tuning but is still hardly useful for RAW, and finally Foveon sensors have an awful light sensitivity which makes them truly usable only at ISO lower than 800.

                                  Good super resolution stacking algorithms could effectively circumvent the limitations of the Bayer patterns - eliminate false colour artifacts and increase the resolution of the image significantly without any serious drawback, and this would be much easier to achieve compared to developing whole new algorithms that actually work well for different types of colour filters.

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                                    • applefanbois
                                    • RN5
                                    • 14 Jul 2021

                                    apple - backwards as usual. this periscope tech has been used in consumer products since 20 years ago by the japanese camera manufacturers. Android smartphone makers has been doing this since many years back.... NOW finally, apple wants to "study" how to put it into their products. OMG, Mr steve jobs we need you back from the grave to lead Apple again!!! Apple is nothing without you!

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                                      • AnonD-1003038
                                      • M}3
                                      • 14 Jul 2021

                                      AnonD-936656, 14 Jul 2021Remember the dark mode on IOS? Every android had it 2 years before Apple released it.Gotta love it when you people pick and choose all the best features from all the various Android smartphone vendors and call it "Android feature" like it's been available on 100% of Android devices of ALL vendors and put that against iOS made by one single company. You either compare iOS with Google's stock ROM or you don't because only that translates features actually being universaly available on phones of all vendors. Or be honest about it and really compare OneUI with iOS or OxygenOS with iOS or MIUI with iOS, not just "Android". But why do I even bother when I'll only be met by floods of salt and hatred for stating something logical on this site...

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                                        • wongwatt
                                        • pKB
                                        • 14 Jul 2021

                                        Only Apple could patent a wrinkle on something invented by another company that offers less than (in this case zoom) the original design.

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